The Strongman Breaking Point | Peter Atwater on Why Something Has to Give
Excess ReturnsJune 11, 202500:59:24

The Strongman Breaking Point | Peter Atwater on Why Something Has to Give

In this episode of Excess Returns, Matt Zeigler sits down with Peter Atwater—President of Financial Insyghts, author of The Confidence Map, and expert on decision-making under uncertainty. Peter lays out a bold and timely framework: in a world led by dominant nationalist figures, global corporations—and their investors—must now navigate a high-stakes game of being labeled either beneficiaries or victims. This conversation digs deep into how these dynamics shape capital flows, investor sentiment, policy risk, and the future of globalization.

📌 Topics Covered:

Why today’s political leaders are reshaping markets and capitalism

How investors must rethink confidence, control, and certainty

The "beneficiary vs. victim" framework for companies and countries

Implications for capital allocation in a deglobalizing world

Fragility of dominant leadership and geopolitical risk

How social media and sentiment shape investor perception

Where investors are most misaligned with current realities

Confidence mapping for AI, private credit, Chinese equities, and more

⏱️ Timestamps:
00:00 – Why the old investment framework no longer works
01:29 – What “a few good men” means in today’s investment era
02:35 – The fallacy of the 1990s globalization mindset
04:03 – The launchpad, the passenger seat, and the illusion of control
07:00 – Why national leaders now dictate corporate winners and losers
10:05 – Beneficiaries vs. victims: how to identify them
13:58 – CEOs must now plan for national resilience
15:25 – Global capital allocation redefined
16:39 – Can mega-caps even survive in this new order?
19:21 – Tesla and the politics of brand perception
21:34 – Why crowd sentiment matters more than CEO plans
23:40 – In and out of favor: how quickly things change
26:21 – The fragility of dominant leaders
28:01 – U.S. market dynamics under the new regime
30:20 – The hidden risk of widespread victimhood
33:31 – Currency markets as sentiment trackers
36:10 – Gold as a safe haven in the new power game
37:29 – Where investors are most off-sides today
39:00 – AI stocks: the comfort zone (for now)
40:46 – Political risk in Chinese equities
43:23 – Regional banks: still vulnerable
44:39 – Private credit’s blind spot
47:08 – The policy response will no longer save everyone
48:20 – Traditional valuation metrics don’t apply
49:00 – The 5 F’s: behavioral reactions to powerlessness
50:00 – Social media as echo chambers of victims and beneficiaries
52:36 – Historical analogs: pre-WWII Europe
54:44 – One lesson Peter would teach every investor
57:03 – What Peter believes that most investors don’t