You're Trading Price, Not Risk | Noel Smith on Why Options See What Price Hides
Excess ReturnsOctober 01, 202501:01:40

You're Trading Price, Not Risk | Noel Smith on Why Options See What Price Hides

In this episode of Excess Returns, we’re joined by Noel Smith, co-founder and CIO of Convex Asset Management. Noel shares his unique journey from biochemistry and the military to market making, high-frequency trading, and running a volatility-focused hedge fund. We dig deep into volatility, regime models, income strategies, dispersion, tail hedging, and more, offering a rare look inside the world of professional options and volatility trading.

Topics covered:

* Noel’s background: biochemistry, military, market making, HFT, hedge fund launch
* How markets have evolved since the 1990s
* Why volatility is the best source of market information
* Regime shift modeling and its role in strategy selection
* Using options for income and the trade-offs investors should understand
* Volatility harvesting and risk-defined short vol strategies
* The impact of zero DTE options on markets
* Dispersion trading and correlation dynamics
* Bond vol arbitrage and volatility surfaces
* Opportunistic trades like GameStop and meme stocks
* Tail hedging, its costs, and how to monetize hedges
* Lessons on flexibility, risk, and never being married to positions

Timestamps:
00:00 Intro and Noel’s unique background
06:00 How markets have changed behind the scenes
07:00 Why volatility is the best information source
09:00 Regime shift model explained
19:00 Using options for income – benefits and risks
24:30 Volatility harvesting strategies
29:10 What the VIX does (and doesn’t) tell you
30:30 Zero DTE options and systemic risk
33:20 Dispersion trading explained
42:00 Bond vol arbitrage
45:00 Opportunistic trades: GameStop and beyond
51:30 Tail hedging and rebalancing
54:30 Lessons on flexibility and risk management

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